Question about Predator policy

[Eyeball]

In the first film (Schwarzenegger 1987) the Predator apparently had a policy of not killing unarmed people, that's why Arnie kicked the gun out of that birds hands so the Pred wouldn't regard her as a threat, and it left her alone.
But in later Predator franchise films such as Aliens vs Predators (2004), the Preds apparently DID kill unarmed people.
Were the earlier Preds soft or what?

 

[Foxbat]

I’m sure if you asked one of the scriptwriters, they’d invent a credible excuse for the killing unarmed humans. After all, it is only a film.

Still, to keep to the spirit of the question.... from what I recall, they were hunters and there were indications that they followed a certain code. Perhaps in AvP, they killed to punish the humans who interfered with the workings of the pyramid which, unless my memory fails me, was set up as a kind of ritualistic hunting area (or perhaps even an initiation area for younger hunters).

A piece of personal trivia: I once met an American who said he edited the trailer for the AvP movie. It was in a hotel bar in Bridge Of Orchy (Scotland) around about 2007. We got talking and I told him how bad I thought the movie was. He wasn’t bothered and said ‘But you watched it, didn’t you?’

He explained to me that if he could make a trailer that attracted people to watch a bad movie then he’d done a good job. I thought he made a good point.

 

[CupofJoe]

In the first film (Schwarzenegger 1987) the Predator apparently had a policy of not killing unarmed people, that's why Arnie kicked the gun out of that birds hands so the Pred wouldn't regard her as a threat, and it left her alone.
But in later Predator franchise films such as Aliens vs Predators (2004), the Preds apparently DID kill unarmed people.
Were the earlier Preds soft or what?

The actor I think you are talking about is Elpidia Carrillo playing Anna Gonsalves.
As for the rest of it... They were different scripts by different writers.

 

[paranoid marvin]

Different Predators, different codes of conduct. The one in the first movie was on the hunt; he'd come to Earth to match himself against his prey.

Not really fair though when you're invisible, with armour and fairly high-tech weapons. Still, the 'big game hunter' doesn't give the lion an easier target when huntung it. Or the lion with the hunter.

 

[Foxbat]

Not really fair though when you're invisible, with armour and fairly high-tech weapons. Still, the 'big game hunter' doesn't give the lion an easier target when huntung it. Or the lion with the hunter.

Very true. Reminds me of a scene from the excellent BBC drama Fall Of Eagles. Archduke Ferdinand and Kaiser Willhelm are sitting in an open top car having a chat. Then, the Kaiser gives his driver an order. The scene expands, showing a servant releasing a load of rabbits from a cage into the grass around the car. Wilhelm and Ferdinand blast away merrily with their shotguns at them without even having to step out of the vehicle.

 

[Swank]

People don't have universal "policies". Why would alien predators?

 

[Pyan]

Very true. Reminds me of a scene from the excellent BBC drama Fall Of Eagles. Archduke Ferdinand and Kaiser Willhelm are sitting in an open top car having a chat. Then, the Kaiser gives his driver an order. The scene expands, showing a servant releasing a load of rabbits from a cage into the grass around the car. Wilhelm and Ferdinand blast away merrily with their shotguns at them without even having to step out of the vehicle.

There's no actual evidence that this is true - apparently it was a story put around by their political enemies to show how decadent and cruel they were.

 

[Parson]

There's no actual evidence that this is true - apparently it was a story put around by their political enemies to show how decadent and cruel they were.

But it is believable. I know of places where you can "fish" for trout in a hugely overstocked pond or pool where the fish are not fed adequately. And of course you are charged for the fish by the inch. I know of farms that create pheasant habitat and stock more pheasants in it so that you almost have to kick a bird up by walking anywhere, so getting good shots is very little trouble. Etc. etc. --- a lot of people who claim to be hunters and fishermen are not really sportsmen but hobby killers.

 

[Swank]

But it is believable. I know of places where you can "fish" for trout in a hugely overstocked pond or pool where the fish are not fed adequately. And of course you are charged for the fish by the inch. I know of farms that create pheasant habitat and stock more pheasants in it so that you almost have to kick a bird up by walking anywhere, so getting good shots is very little trouble. Etc. etc. --- a lot of people who claim to be hunters and fishermen are not really sportsmen but hobby killers.

I shot a deer at 200 meters. Am I a hobby killer or sportsman killer?

 

[Venusian Broon]

I always thought that the predators were just on safari, and just made up the rules of what constituted a hunt to please themselves.

In predator 2 the police cop is left alone because the big bad can see that she's pregnant, thus decides to spare her.

As for Aliens v Predator, well, everyone in that pyramid, if not taken out by the Predators, would likely become a host for an Alien. So perhaps just get rid of everyone before that could happen?

And for Aliens v Predator, I'd guess there's a large fraction of both Alien and Predator fans that would tell you that both of those movies aren't cannon anyway and therefore can be ignored. (Although I'd love to see Alien v Predator v Terminator as a movie, where Skynet gets thrown into the mix. There is a comic book that takes that premise. It's probably a mess, but what the hell...)

 

[KGeo777]

Yeah it didn't really make sense because the Predator had those animal skulls on its chest--I am assuming they never had guns.

They worked themselves intro a corner--especially the second one because he should have been toast at the end.

 

[Parson]

@Swank said: I shot a deer at 200 meters. Am I a hobby killer or sportsman killer?
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Two hundred meters is a wonderful shot, especially if you killed the deer with one shot. But the question is "Did you hunt it or were you set up so that you could pull the trigger." I suspect the former because most the "hunting preserves" I know hope to get you a much better shot than that.

Personally, I've hunted rarely, but I have fished a lot in my younger years. I've fished with downriggers from time to time and that feels a little bit like "preserve hunting" especially if you are fishing with a guide. He (possibly she) takes care of everything and then when the fish strikes the pole which you have not been holding you grab it out of the holder and reel in (or try to reel in) the fish. I always feel as if I've had little to do with it. It's fun, but not nearly as rewarding as actually doing the work, the scouting, the trial and error, that goes into what I would call true sportsman hunting.

 

[Ubergeek]

@Swank said: I shot a deer at 200 meters. Am I a hobby killer or sportsman killer?
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Two hundred meters is a wonderful shot, especially if you killed the deer with one shot. But the question is "Did you hunt it or were you set up so that you could pull the trigger." I suspect the former because most the "hunting preserves" I know hope to get you a much better shot than that.

Personally, I've hunted rarely, but I have fished a lot in my younger years. I've fished with downriggers from time to time and that feels a little bit like "preserve hunting" especially if you are fishing with a guide. He (possibly she) takes care of everything and then when the fish strikes the pole which you have not been holding you grab it out of the holder and reel in (or try to reel in) the fish. I always feel as if I've had little to do with it. It's fun, but not nearly as rewarding as actually doing the work, the scouting, the trial and error, that goes into what I would call true sportsman hunting.

Your fun , is definitely not my fun sir .

 

[Cthulhu.Science]

What are the rules?